You get what you advertise for
When I wrote my post titled, "Our friends in the gold wrappers", talking about professional athletes fathering multiple children outside of wedlock, I got several comments from people saying it was the women's fault; that these women are gold-diggers just using these men for their money and their status. And in many cases this is true. But my argument is that these men bring that on themselves by their own behavior.
Now before you men get all mad at me, hear me out. All I'm saying is that whatever you advertise for is what you get. Our society as a whole, women included, worships money. So you cannot walk around dripping in diamonds, sporting Louis Vuitton sneakers and Gucci sunglasses, driving a Bentley, and then expect people to deal with you strictly on the merit of your character. That's like a woman walking around in a dress with her butt and boobs hanging out, and then getting mad at men for not caring about the complexities of what's going on in her pretty little head, and instead just wanting to "hit it". Neither makes much sense.
If these men are going to flaunt their millions, which they have every right to do, they need to at least be perceptive enough, and willing, to separate those that care about them from those that care about their money. And if they want to sleep with beautiful women because their status affords them those opportunities, cool. But in that case, they know what she's there for and there is no way they should get tricked or trapped by her.
That leads me to my next point: these men use their money and status to get women. Duh, of course they do. But what I'm saying is, if they approach a woman like she should sleep with them because of who they are, and she does, then they know exactly why she slept with them! And you would be surprised how unashamed these men are in terms of soliciting women.
One certain NBA All-Star came up to me, tapped me on the shoulder, said "that one", and walked away, only to have one of his male groupies run up behind him and inform me that said player wanted my number. When I didn't give it to him (because the method was totally disrespectful), he looked at me like I had just grown a third eye. I'm assuming this scenario had happened many times before and rarely with the answer "no" following.
Another player - gotta love the NBA - approached me, told me I was beautiful, and after a short conversation asked if he could take me to lunch. I was impressed because it was different than the way other athletes had approached me, so I said, "sure, lunch would be cool", and gave him my number. Within an hour he was texting me, telling me where his room was and suggesting we could "chill" there later. Funny how fast he went from, "lets do lunch" to "I got a room at such-and-such hotel"; and best believe I called him out on it. Lol.
I could tell stories like these all day. The point is that these men use their status to get trifling women to sleep with them, and the women that won't sleep with them simply because of who they are, they want nothing to do with. So sorry if I don't feel bad for the ones that this behavior turns around and bites in the butt. Yes there are instances where the woman is thought to be trustworthy and proven to be otherwise. But this happens far less than we, as the male athlete loving population, would like to believe.
Now before you men get all mad at me, hear me out. All I'm saying is that whatever you advertise for is what you get. Our society as a whole, women included, worships money. So you cannot walk around dripping in diamonds, sporting Louis Vuitton sneakers and Gucci sunglasses, driving a Bentley, and then expect people to deal with you strictly on the merit of your character. That's like a woman walking around in a dress with her butt and boobs hanging out, and then getting mad at men for not caring about the complexities of what's going on in her pretty little head, and instead just wanting to "hit it". Neither makes much sense.
If these men are going to flaunt their millions, which they have every right to do, they need to at least be perceptive enough, and willing, to separate those that care about them from those that care about their money. And if they want to sleep with beautiful women because their status affords them those opportunities, cool. But in that case, they know what she's there for and there is no way they should get tricked or trapped by her.
That leads me to my next point: these men use their money and status to get women. Duh, of course they do. But what I'm saying is, if they approach a woman like she should sleep with them because of who they are, and she does, then they know exactly why she slept with them! And you would be surprised how unashamed these men are in terms of soliciting women.
One certain NBA All-Star came up to me, tapped me on the shoulder, said "that one", and walked away, only to have one of his male groupies run up behind him and inform me that said player wanted my number. When I didn't give it to him (because the method was totally disrespectful), he looked at me like I had just grown a third eye. I'm assuming this scenario had happened many times before and rarely with the answer "no" following.
Another player - gotta love the NBA - approached me, told me I was beautiful, and after a short conversation asked if he could take me to lunch. I was impressed because it was different than the way other athletes had approached me, so I said, "sure, lunch would be cool", and gave him my number. Within an hour he was texting me, telling me where his room was and suggesting we could "chill" there later. Funny how fast he went from, "lets do lunch" to "I got a room at such-and-such hotel"; and best believe I called him out on it. Lol.
I could tell stories like these all day. The point is that these men use their status to get trifling women to sleep with them, and the women that won't sleep with them simply because of who they are, they want nothing to do with. So sorry if I don't feel bad for the ones that this behavior turns around and bites in the butt. Yes there are instances where the woman is thought to be trustworthy and proven to be otherwise. But this happens far less than we, as the male athlete loving population, would like to believe.
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men are dogs, woof.
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and this is why i don't date athletes. lol.
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im sure this is why
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you should meet some hockey players. worse of the worse.
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Pffft, Software Engineers in San Francisco, we're the Kings of Jackasses.
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Watch out!

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PREACH Chantelle!!!
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Yeah, it is pretty much that simple. Chantelle breaks it down with common sense as usual.
I have little sympathy for people on either side of this equation when they get burned. -
I agree, if a man's pick-up approach hinges on flaunting (or downright stating) how much money he is worth, he cannot then be surprised when gold diggers and baby-momma-hopefuls come fluttering. It's not just athletes though, I've been around high level executives who feel the same sense of entitlement and expect women to drop their panties as soon as they see the business card. Some of these men have been married (and divorced) multiple times yet always seem surprised to learn their wife only wanted them for the money. Well, when your main objective in finding a mate is ensuring she's adequate arm-candy then can you really be amazed to find out your trophy wife doesn't love you for you? It's counter-intuitive, you can't expect to find a women that doesn't want you for your money when you're dripping in diamonds and sending boys from your entourage to go holla at chicks for you. Quality women never want to feel like they've been bought.
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Ok, but truth be told, I WOULD drop my panties for a guy who handed me one of these business cards.

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Well of course, you gotta have exceptions. I mean, that's just delicious advertising. =)
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Yeah all men are really dumb, ignorant assholes. Right? Dogs, worse of the worse, jackasses. Yeah keep up the man hating and male bashing, but meanwhile demand respect for all woman athletes.
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You obviously didn't read my comment thoroughly. I never said anything about ALL men. I commented on a pick-up approach that emphasizes monetary worth. I'm speaking about a specific approach; YOU'RE applying it to ALL men. And I stand by my point, if a man makes his money the focus of his appeal then he can't be surprised when he's the target of gold-diggers. Just like the woman that goes to the club damn near naked shouldn't act offended when she's the target of unwelcome sexual advances. You attract what you advertise for and it applies to both sexes. Don't misconstrue my comment to be more general than what I've written.
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I'm speechless, I couldn't agree with you more, that's all I can say!!!
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It's easy to see why these guys have no respect for women. The ones they encounter don't give them any reason to. --- Sure, both the men and women involved should know what they're getting into. However, neither athletes nor groupies are generally known for their intellect (present company excluded, of course).
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exactly. although i think many athletes are smarter than people give them credit for. we either never had to apply ourselves in school because we weren't made to (although i've always been in honors classes, many people would be surprised to learn that after i signed my scholarship to vanderbilt i almost flunked out of high school bc i knew i could get away with it), or we learn a different way that isn't necessarily shown in papers and tests. there is nothing simple about a football playbook, or remembering everything you have to do on the court, or executing while you're exhausted. all of those things are a different type of intelligence that we athletes are not given credit for.
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It's a pity that names can't be named, so that there can be public shaming. Then again, these captains of talent should know from their court experience - there's only one "greatest player" in the world at any one time and on any given night, you can run into someone who's better than you at playing the game - whether it be the game of basketball or some other more social game. (That's why so many of these players end up with empty pockets.) I suspect that Shoulder Tapper and Let's Do Lunch will find out how good they are at "The Game" soon enough.
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haha i would never name names. not my style. and you really can't blame these men because it's society and the women that allow them to act this way. i don't think either of the guys i mentioned are really "bad guys". but if you step to 50 women with the same lines and 45 of them are willing to sleep with you, wouldn't most men do it? with this post i'm just saying that i don't feel sorry for them when they get played by their own game.
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Chantelle, you are a very gracious individual for not labeling these individuals as "bad"...can we perhaps compromise and label them "misguided"?
But seriously, I think there's a tendency to dismiss this type of behavior by saying "boys will be boys" and as long as women are putting themselves out there we should not expect more. I suppose I would disagree -- at some point, we need to hold our men to higher standards and communicate to the boys that being a man includes respecting women as human beings... but trust, I hear the point you're trying to make in this post...I just won't be mad if you take it a step further
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Do you think men deserve respect as human beings also? Because there certainly isn't any of it on this thread. Just endless put downs and insulting of men.
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Hey Chantelle, you are not afraid to tackle some slightly touchy topics, but I think, once again you have done an outstanding job of hitting both sides of the question. And once again the writing is superb.
I have to wonder how much these guys who are willing to buy relationships actual value themselves. They seem to be selling themselves cheap.
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I think it's the women who are "selling themselves cheap."
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Chantelle, I totally agree with you here and I've got to say of all the athletes blogs that I read, yours are always my favorites. You speak your mind, and I think that's great. Please continue!!!
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Just hand men the link to this blog, Chantelle. Then, if they still want to deal with you, you know they're worthy.
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Hahaha excellent idea!
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lol. i know right. oh trust me, if i was worried about offending male athletes i wouldn't be writing this stuff. but you're right. the good ones will know i'm not talking about them and have nothing to be offended about!
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You're not "worried about offending male athletes" but you don't want men to say anything offensive about female athletes? "the good ones will know i'm not talking about them and have nothing to be offended about!" Yeah, just like men should feel free to refer to women as b!tches and hoes, because the good ones will know men are not talking about them and have nothing to be offended about, right? It's amazing how someone who is so quick to take offense at any discussion of the sexual behavior of female athletes, feels perfectly free to discuss and condemn the sexual behavior of male athletes.
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Why, under any circumstance, would it be OK to call women "bitches and hoes?" We are discussing some male athletes who are dismissive of women because they use them and then are surprised to be used back.
Chantelle states that in her experience, the men who do not see women as objects, but as individuals, are also reasoned enough not to take offence when a condemnatory story does not apply to them. I expect that is because they see themselves as they see others, as individuals.
Chantelle is calling some women out here, and maybe some are women athletes. That is not part of the story, so we don't know. As a reader of her work, I know she is very candid about her peers and can be critical. But it is on an entirely different level than the name calling you suggest she objects to. I object. And I hope you would object too. -
i never said it was wrong to say anything offensive about female athletes. as i have said in other posts, what offends me is when people say all female athletes are a certain way. i don't have a problem with people stating their opinions. but i do have a problem with people calling their opinions fact when they're clearly not. and don't make the mistake of assuming certain things will offend me. if a woman is acting like a ho or a bitch and you feel the need to say so then fine, as long as her behavior warrants that title. at the same time, i would hope that you would have enough respect for yourself not to use that language...but hey, to each his own.
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and also, if you started talking about ho's and bitches then i would immediately know you're not talking about me, because my behavior doesn't put me in either of those categories. but if you said all women are ho's and bitches, then it would be offensive. see the difference?
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Chantell , did you just get married?
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um, no. why do you ask?
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Some one thought it was you that recently got married.
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Yeah, I have this problem with women all the time. :-|
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Sorry about that!!!!!
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Most entertaining blog on YardBarker. Thanks Chantelle. Refreshing stuff.
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A real man doesnt need money just to get a hot chick.
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and no man needs money to get a "chick" pregnant ;)
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well written with some great points.....in thinking of the children (some unwanted no doubt-and who suffer unfortunately)....the men could also wear condoms if they know these women are only sleeping with them for who they are.....guys cant play dumb that some women won't try to get pregnant on purpose...that happens to men of all classes lol not just rich ones or famous ones...some women are just messed up...then again, so are some men. Such is humanity...sigh.
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They should be wearing a condom even if they are NOT thinking of the children. If someone sleeps with you that quickly then you're a fool to believe they haven't slept with a bunch of others just as easily. If someone it prepared to not use a condom with you then you're a fool to believe they haven't gone unprotected with others. So for disease reasons alone it's hard to believe that they wouldn't protect themselves, let alone for the pregnancy risk as well. That goes for both the guy and the girl.
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Thank you Luuuc!!!! I don't understand how all this sex without condoms happens all the time. How stupid are people? It's dangerous out there!
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i once had a roommate dumb enough to believe that thinking good thoughts would be enough to keep her from getting pregnant. she also used this logic in regards to spaying her pets. i hope she figured it out by the 2nd little of cats.
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and the above is mostly for the folks who end up with unwilling babydaddies, but people can be that stupid about diseases too.
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you're wrong in saying that i don't feel the same should the situations be reversed bc actually i do. when someone shows you who they are, believe them. if a woman is triflin enough to sleep with you just because of who you are then you shouldn't be surprised when she does other shady stuff like use you for your money or get pregnant on purpose. same with women. if you're wearing a prostitutes uniform, i.e. all your goodies hanging out all over the place, and a man steps to you real aggressively, and you really believe that he cares about your hopes and dreams of a husband and 2 kids, then yes, you are being dumb and deserve whatever comes after. we as men and women have to be smarter! i am well aware of the double standard that exists but usually it's the women who are the victims of it and not the men. aaaaannnnnddd...i've never dated a doctor before but i don't discriminate. i would. it's not like i only date athletes, but thats just who seems to approach me the most with the right qualifications.
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I actually do think that they both deserve to get used if thats where their mentality is. Sorry pretty girl with the gold digger intentions that lets me hit it so fast, but u will never be my wife or get more than dinner and a movie,,,And to the celebrity male this has been going on for soooo long u gotta be smarter than dat. U dont gotta be married but use a condom (u should anyway) and get to know a girl inside and out before u trust her that much...I mean what is she doing for herself?
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Yes, there are so many NBA players lacking in confidence and compensating by flaunting their wealth. It is an epidemic I think.
Basically she is advocating knowing who you are dealing with -- never bad advice and especially good when people are going to lknow you first for things like your status and your wealth. It is hard to know why you are liked and doubly difficult if you treat everyone as if they should cater to whatever you ask.
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I think Chantelle would object to your stereotyping NBA players, since she objects to stereotyping WNBA players.
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